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paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost mey that was not paid uln d it >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, weill show you why thre dnganazdd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he wasaught a lesson said abouthmoraty of s nddu tie period by a veteran of that war who taught him a lesson about the people romney thinks of as the takers he thinks are dependant on government. that is comingp. [ horse neighs ] look! she wears the scarlet markings! [ man ] out! your kind is not welcome here! nor your odd predilections! miracle whip is tangy and sweet, not odd. [ man ] it's evil! she speaketh the truth! [ crowd gasps ] [ woman ] reverend? ♪ can i have some? ♪ >>> why is tearomney sudnly praising team obama? t ginouy romney world is suddenly praising obama. the answer com
paul ryan voted for all of that. he voted for medicare part d prescription drug benefit which has cost mey that was not paid uln d it >> thank you both for joining me tonight. >> coming up. team romney is praising president obama now. they are, weill show you why thre dnganazdd aiken. mitt romney was in favor of the vietnam war and the draft that sent americans to their death but he was not in favor observing in vietnam himself. he wasaught a lesson said abouthmoraty of s nddu tie...
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romney has difficulties but doesn't have any real experience, himsel paul ryan is a domestic guy. he doesn'to a lot of foreign policy stuff. notalki abot,le obofthe hook a little bit because there is this problem of what happens next after the surge is over? you know, what happens with pulling out the troops do we pull them out earlier like bill young is talking about? or do we keep them in longer in that debate is not happening. you know, i don't think either id flyob had rtaroosweror that. and i think that's sort of why we're seeing neither one of them really engaging hard on what's going to happen next in the war. >> the president is talking about the new tower on the new york skyline. that tower is not do. taing about savingfrom enng t war in afghanistan. that war doesn't end until the end of 2014. anybody running against somebody who's taking those positions provided they had the slightest bit of confidence in our own position, it seems like a place to go. but i wonder if you see the romney campaign potentially bringing somebody else on who can ndle it? any sortheyweit suatho
romney has difficulties but doesn't have any real experience, himsel paul ryan is a domestic guy. he doesn'to a lot of foreign policy stuff. notalki abot,le obofthe hook a little bit because there is this problem of what happens next after the surge is over? you know, what happens with pulling out the troops do we pull them out earlier like bill young is talking about? or do we keep them in longer in that debate is not happening. you know, i don't think either id flyob had rtaroosweror that....
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you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not qte fys but it did make the job more straight forward. and geoe thorus pledged more money to yo today. whdidehaay and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bng them out of the wowork >> is this the moment where we need to get involve snd. >> we are getting into this period where you are at the last moment where big investments are voting in the race. an make investments in television add ver advertisements. i think a lot of democrats are feeling the election is here and even though mitt romney has not rformed very well ove the la ts, president is barely knocking on 50% in the last two weeks. democrats are feeling the pressure and are concerned. >> when people are talking about ngbe a seven figure donation, you were on the campaign side of it with normal donors years ago. are really rich people concerned about different this? you if were giving to
you would be sticking him with the paul ryan budget before he picked paul ryan. >> i'm giving myself fridays off. >> not qte fys but it did make the job more straight forward. and geoe thorus pledged more money to yo today. whdidehaay and why didn't he do that before and what is the consequence of that? >> the consequence is that -- >> does it bring other rich democrats who gave to him, does it bng them out of the wowork >> is this the moment where we need to get...
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in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out, and that's the budget plan that we're going to run on. >> and again this sunday romney had to distance himself from ryan's positions and assert that he's the man at the top of the ticket. let's listen. >> the president's cutting $716 billion from current medicare. i disagree with that. i'd put those dollars back into medicare. >> mr. ryan has proposed something similar, almost precisely the same number, 716. >> he was going to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself a
in the first interview romney and ryan gave after ryan joined the ticket, bob schieffer pointed out ryan budget plan, including his plan to voucherize, that's a great word, medicare, could be trouble for romney. let's listen. >> there's no question your campaign has been trying to make this a election a referendum on barack obama. now some people are saying you are making it a referendum on paul ryan's budget plan. >> well, i have my budget plan, as you know, that i have put out,...
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but they're also impressed with ryan. >> he's doing a great job so far. he's getting rid of the ball, going along with progression so what we've got do is tighten up on the back end. >> we can see on film when ryan has time he's able to help find his receivers so it's crucial for us to be able to get pressure to just the front four. >> another award for rgiii, offensive rookie of the month. sunday he became one of three rookies to pass for over 1,000 yards in his first four weeks. >>> we've got ourselves some great high school football tomorrow night. dunbar edging out chantilly for the game of the week. 12,000 of you voted. we'll have highlights of both of those games. also dematha versus good counsel. >>> ted leonsa always seems to have a smile on his face but the wizards are in the midst of a major rebuild. and the nhl lockout? mums the word. he did talk about his wiz kids, though, and he actually made a correlation to the nationals. he believes his team is restructuring in a similar fashion to the nats. >> i looked at the nationals losing 100 games an
but they're also impressed with ryan. >> he's doing a great job so far. he's getting rid of the ball, going along with progression so what we've got do is tighten up on the back end. >> we can see on film when ryan has time he's able to help find his receivers so it's crucial for us to be able to get pressure to just the front four. >> another award for rgiii, offensive rookie of the month. sunday he became one of three rookies to pass for over 1,000 yards in his first four...
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i mean, look, there are not just magic asterisks in the romney/ryan program. there are complete empty sections of geography, complete deserts. we don't even know how those huge tax cuts, mostly for the very wealthy, are going to be paid for. there's no idea of which loopholes are going to be closed, how loopholes are going to be closed, whether loopholes are going to be closed, what in fact is a loophole. there's no there there. until there is a there there, the public is not going to feel that this plan is credible. >> ari, what about that? romney and ryan keep saying we believe we're going to work with congress and work out those details. >> here's how i look at it. number one, he's a candidate for office. when you look at the totality of his proposals, he says he can balance the budget in eight to ten years. the president had to offer a very specific budget. it never once comes into balance. now, as for those specifics on taxes, i go back to the last time we successfully had major tax reform which was in 1986 with ronald reagan as president. he didn't come
i mean, look, there are not just magic asterisks in the romney/ryan program. there are complete empty sections of geography, complete deserts. we don't even know how those huge tax cuts, mostly for the very wealthy, are going to be paid for. there's no idea of which loopholes are going to be closed, how loopholes are going to be closed, whether loopholes are going to be closed, what in fact is a loophole. there's no there there. until there is a there there, the public is not going to feel that...
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ryan said he was essentially fed that tape along with a lot of other clips of paul ryan over the weekend that he essentially just got around to it now and posted it today. it does not seem to have been timed quite so acutely for debate eve in the way that the drudgery report was. at the same time, substantively the ryan tape seems to reenforce this 47% tape ha romney has had trouble with. do you see it as reenforcing that problem? >> i think politically it may reenforce the problem. the 47% comments were a huge deal. and they have been criticized by a lot of republicans. the points that paul ryan is making are different. politically they merge together. but it is a meritorious debate to have when you look at the level of dependency in the country. do we want to live in a country where people are receiving a net transfer with tax dollars? do we want to live in a country where a minority of people are the tax providers? do you want everybody to be a stake holder? do you want everybody to have skin in the game? these are arguments worthy of a presidential campaign. what paul ryan is talking
ryan said he was essentially fed that tape along with a lot of other clips of paul ryan over the weekend that he essentially just got around to it now and posted it today. it does not seem to have been timed quite so acutely for debate eve in the way that the drudgery report was. at the same time, substantively the ryan tape seems to reenforce this 47% tape ha romney has had trouble with. do you see it as reenforcing that problem? >> i think politically it may reenforce the problem. the...
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including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was severely conservative. he vowed to repeal obama care. and then there's this -- >> i have experience in health care reform. now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> this goes to the root of the gop brand problem. they came in and assaulted programs that people like. and now they're trying to run like the wind from it. i'd like to call this move, the walk back. joining me now is democratic stra
including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was...
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ryan says, quote, best reaction ever. the kid's father aaron commented, too, saying, high fiving the man he used to call barack obama made my son's night. we want to hear what you think, too. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. n an entrepreneur's dream.. ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. >>> i think it goes without saying, there's a m
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paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/0 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe the american idea. only 30%en watt their welfare state. what that tells us is at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. >> ryan's comment were part of the keynote address at a gala dinner hosted by the american spectator. that was in november 201, ten months ago, well before he was considered to be a vice presidential running mate. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial
paul ryan speaking about a moral tipping point in united states, six months before romney's 47% remark. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. today 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. you could argue that we're already past that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after...
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paul ryan even voted against the simpson-bowles plan as a member of the commission. he would not vote to let it get to the united states congress. why? it's important you know why. because they will not voted for a single solitary reduction in the debt if it includes $1 in new taxes for millionaires. not even $1. that is the fact. i do not need your boos. i need your votes and organization. [cheers and applause] i love how they believe over the national debt. -- they believe over the national debt. --they are so concerned about it. they bleed over the national debt. mitt romney, when asked if he had a plan to reduce the national debt if it included $10 in reduction of federal spending and $1 in the reduction of the debt, he said no. this is not on the level. they are not about reducing the debt or having a plan if it requires millionaires to pay a cent. what is more amazing is that they have discovered the middle class. [laughter] there it is. and never heard those guys use the phrase middle-class more in their whole lives than they did at that convention. the talk a
paul ryan even voted against the simpson-bowles plan as a member of the commission. he would not vote to let it get to the united states congress. why? it's important you know why. because they will not voted for a single solitary reduction in the debt if it includes $1 in new taxes for millionaires. not even $1. that is the fact. i do not need your boos. i need your votes and organization. [cheers and applause] i love how they believe over the national debt. -- they believe over the national...
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ryan appears to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their
ryan appears to lose his voice. however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for...
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ryan today. on a radio program he said he didn't want to explain the math and i'm quoting him, because he was afraid people would change the channel. is he -- sorry, jared, to point this out, but is he now saying voters simply don't care about the smshs, they're not interested, they're bored by the details? >> look, he's just trying to dance his way -- look, i'm not the one to makes these decisions, martin, but we have a tv station here and i think we would give mr. ryan all the time he needed to explain his math. so, frankly, i think we should invite him to come here. we're not worried about the channel. we're interested in clear politics. so come on, explain the arithmetic, we will listen to you. >> good luck with that, jared. we've been asking for about a year. jared bernstein, thank you so much for joining us. >> sure. >>> next, we get close to the president's desert retreat as he prepares for wednesday night's debate. stay with us. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streami
ryan today. on a radio program he said he didn't want to explain the math and i'm quoting him, because he was afraid people would change the channel. is he -- sorry, jared, to point this out, but is he now saying voters simply don't care about the smshs, they're not interested, they're bored by the details? >> look, he's just trying to dance his way -- look, i'm not the one to makes these decisions, martin, but we have a tv station here and i think we would give mr. ryan all the time he...
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however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the truth to put it gently. the obama campaign -- they did a smart thing today. got up bright and early this morning realizing they took a loss last night and began pointing out where governor romney had not said what he said before, had not stuck to the truth. however, we learned again last night, if we needed reminding, that there's power in taking the view. listen, i'm frequently in error, but never in doubt. i believe what i'm telling you. and that carries its own power and strength. >> especially when you're talking to 50 million
however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we...
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ryan. he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter. if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't know if they don't matter. >> sarah palin, people watched it the way you watch a nascar race with a fascination that there may be an accident or a wreck. but with the debate coming up, there is this tension on the ticket, republican ticket, between paul ryan who campaigns and gave the speech remember at the convention, there was archly ideological about creating a new world that the president has described at darwinian and pessimistic and dark. and he gives joe biden a lot of lines of attack on the ryan budget, the medicare plan and all those things.
ryan. he's got to face joe biden next week. with all of the things that the new minted mitt romney said last night, joe biden who is a very feisty debater brings to ryan. doesn't ryan have a problem in the debate next week agreeing with some of the things that the new mitt romney came with last night? >> well, you know, we all yearn for good presidentivice preside debate, but the truth is they really don't matter. if the quaylquayle-benson didn' matter, this won won't. >> we don't...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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i think paul ryan did. maybe you'll see more from paul ryan in the vice presidential debate. i think he's going focus on regulation and all that stuff. >> let me ask you, a built of a warning to you. >> i will not gloat. i will never gloat. >> you may be right and that's okay. romney took a machete and lifted newt gingrich's head off. and later on romney took maybe a different cleaner machete and took rick santorum's head off. obama on the other hand has been surrounded by doughy psycho fans, he hasn't been in any hand to hand combat. he hasn't had any debating experience, he's gone soft. that's why romney might just pull a real upset here. >> i'm not playing a game, i'm being very honest with you, i these president obama does great in front of the teleprompter, and i'm biting my nails over this. now that having been said -- >> he's likable. >> but this notion of national polling numbers is a farce. this election is going to be decided in the swing states. obama has a nine point lead in ohio? you guys are suggesting that the debate is going to change everything. >> to larry s
i think paul ryan did. maybe you'll see more from paul ryan in the vice presidential debate. i think he's going focus on regulation and all that stuff. >> let me ask you, a built of a warning to you. >> i will not gloat. i will never gloat. >> you may be right and that's okay. romney took a machete and lifted newt gingrich's head off. and later on romney took maybe a different cleaner machete and took rick santorum's head off. obama on the other hand has been surrounded by...
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and let ryan be ryan. no, i think if republican insiders had their way, they might let ryan beat romney. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. snoop folks, have you checked us out on facebook? the "politicsnation" conversation is going all day long. today's hot topic was the right wing voter fraud coming out of florida. tammi says, they accuse the democrats of shenanigans when they are the ones up to no good. and dana says, nice try republicans, but we gotcha. nice one, dana. we've got the full report on that fraud, by the way, coming up next. >>> but, first, we want to hear what you think. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and "like" us to join the conversation that keeps going long
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while we are looking at twiter, paul ryan produced this picture of him watching the debate. let's hear next from angela and los angeles. >> somebody asked why obama did not attack mitt romney -- i do not believe it is about that. i believe it was about connecting with people. >> next up is harriet. >> i really enjoyed the debate. i think mitt romney did a good job. i love that he is going to put government back into the governor's hands and work with everybody to get good health care for those with pre-existing conditions and for people who cannot afford it. thank you for taking my call. >> on facebook -- next up from kentucky, independent, you are on the austin. >> i agree that the debate was not anything very special. romney was being a little ridiculous constantly interrupting obama. over all, not very much of a great debate. we will see how it goes. >> next up is delores' from rhode island, she is a democrat there. >> i thought that obama did better. detailing exactly the tax cuts that need to be in place again to create the jobs. i just remember over the past several ye
while we are looking at twiter, paul ryan produced this picture of him watching the debate. let's hear next from angela and los angeles. >> somebody asked why obama did not attack mitt romney -- i do not believe it is about that. i believe it was about connecting with people. >> next up is harriet. >> i really enjoyed the debate. i think mitt romney did a good job. i love that he is going to put government back into the governor's hands and work with everybody to get good...